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Tuesday, April 10. 2007Do We Really Believe In Free Speech?Trackbacks
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All freedom of speech means to me is that the government can't arrest you for speaking (except of course in very limited circumstances). It says nothing about non-governmental consequences of your speech.
So for example, it would be a violation of that right for people at a state university (gov't) to shut down the college Republican's right to say what they want, but it would not be a violation for a non-government group to advocate boycotting ABC because of Rosie's remarks. Right? Not that I am advocating that, of course.
Kevin's first sentence says it all. A good succinct definition.
"Freedom of speech" is a commonly mis-understood concept. The Dixie Chicks didn't did not lose any of their rights when they were boycotted after Nat made some remarks overseas that were patently offensive to many of their fans, particulerly republican fans in Texas. Nat's problem is that she believes that she thinks as well as she sings. As far as Rosie is concerned...
You're absolutely right. There can be non-government consequences to your speech - those protesting Imus are flexing their rights as well.
The problem with the networks and radio stations is that decisions are made by executives who have the FCC in the back of their minds. The FCC has fined Howard Stern's stations many times. Why not fine ABC for what Rosie says? The "public interest" pretense of FCC censorship is 100% subjective, and is simply an end-around the First Amendment. I'd have no issue with stations making decisions about talk hosts if there were no government interference in the decision-making. Ditto for colleges if they didn't take government money.
Absolutely agreed. The FCC doesn't even "legally" have a right to do it anyway, except that no government official or president is willing to shut them down, since its too damn convenient to let them keep the defacto right they have gained, so they can silence the next naughty word, exposed body part or pet scape goat of our social problems, regardless of who is in office.
Their original mandate went like this: "Since TV only have a small number of channels, when compared to the huge number of news papers, magazines and radio stations, and one cannot simply pick which programs and channels you want to watch, some standard of behaviour and conduct should be imposed, so as to not cause undue stress to the fools (excuse me, viewers) who might be offended by some of the content.", more or less. We now have the complete reverse. More people own TVs than radios, there are so many fracking channels that you have to sell kidneys to get them all (partly because the producers don't want to have to tell half of them, "No one wants to watch you, sorry!", instead of selling you 20 channels, of which you watch 2), radio stations are few and mostly all stink, and in most places where you used to be able to find 10 news papers from around the country/world, you are lucky if you can find three or four. Those being the Wall Street Journal, the paper from the nearest big city(ies) and the local one, that in my case is so cheap they can't find people who know how to a) research, b) proof read or c) spell properly. And both sides have basically different views on "why" to censor. The right tend to censor things they insist will somehow undermine a magically utopia they are striving for (never mind that you can't find two of them from different states that could honestly say they share the same identical vision). The vocal part of the left want to silence people that tell other people that their opinions are BS. Neither side is open to debate, because one side will shut down debate from those with different opinions as, "Not worth listening too" (I know, I have seen it happen. Complete deletion of posts, removal of accounts, etc., all so that the people on the board can keep repeating the same BS to each other. And no, it doesn't matter if you even mention their belief system, just go to one, like an ID proponents site and post the sentence, "Evolution isn't a random process." If they let it go through automatically, then five minutes later it will be gone. If its one where they review the post first, it will never make it on the board. And that is true whether you are talking about evolution, global warming or fracking diaper changing. If your view contradicts the local kook, you are banned *instantly*. The leftist sites.. Some probably do the same. Most will just laugh at you or try to shout you down. Very few of the most vocal ones are willing to debate you. And **we**, the ones that consider ourself to be real liberal, think they suck as much as the right wingers. But, the right wing response is damn near universal. The left wing response, depends entirely on if you are dealing with some dipshit that thinks "intellectual" equates to reading the latest rubbish from Depok Chopra and believing it makes any fracking sense. Roughly the same sort you get running the, "nuke them when they have a different opinion", sort on the right, but with a different set of silly heroes and a different imaginary utopia they are tunnel visioned on. And.. I never once mentioned religion in this po.. Oh hell....
Wow! We're in complete agreement. Many on the right want censorship, many on the left do. And they're all wrong.
Open Letter to Bronx Borough President
Dear Mr. Carrion: I think you need to rethink your real supporters and find more ways to ensure Latino's are not left in the background, especially when addressing racial slurs and bias. Keeping in mind, that Blacks have been doing a good job of moving forward in every respect of life. Where are the Latino's? Why haven't I seen you on the television or heard you on the Radio? Discussing Latino issues, and I mean major television and radio! Hispanics are now called "people of color" Thanks to Rev. Jesse Jackson, and Doesn't that make me a "colored man," that was once considered derogatory. And when I walk down the street and meet a young Black man he usually refers to me as a "Niga," thinking It's all right. When is it enough and wasn't it bad enough when we were labeled with "Spic's" by the Italian's when they were first were called Spaghetti people (Spic's), when getting off the boat. Please read my letter to Don Imus, and please keep Latino's/Hispanic's in mind if you really want to do something useful because we really don't have a real leader(Latino's/Hispanic's). Or maybe we will wait for Rev. Al or Jackson to come forward when it's time to vote. Sincerely, Raymond Sanchez 253 Third Avenue New York, NY 10010 212-475-1900 |
Poll Checker: 2012 Battleground States and Leaners
A new book from Tom Elia A compilation of actual presidential & aggregate US House votes for the nation & for the 'battleground states' from 2000-2010. When Lobsters Take Flight
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